D King Horse Racing Form | Tipperary 16:15 06th October 2024

mid-division, never a factor, not fluent 1st and slight mistake 3rd, ridden and weakened after 4 out, tailed off

tracked leaders, disputed halfway, headed before 8th, 4th 5 out, ridden and no impression after next, weakened

mid-division, some headway before 3 out, ridden in 4th before 2 out, no impression, kept on one pace

mid-division, headway into 5th and ridden 2 out, 4th at last, no extra

mid-division, mistake and hampered 1st, ridden in moderate 8th 2 out, no impression

settled behind leaders, 4th halfway, ridden in 3rd 2 out, under pressure in 2nd entering straight, pressed leader last, led last 100 yards, kept on well close home

held up, 6th halfway, pecked slightly 4 out, progress in 3rd 3 out, challenged before 2 out where fell

led, jumped left 1st, pressed entering straight, pushed along before 2 out, ridden and asserted after 2 out, stayed on well

tracked leaders, 2nd halfway, not fluent 6th and next, pushed along 3 out, switched left before 2 out, 3rd when not fluent 2 out, ridden and no impression before last, kept on one pace

mid-division, 5th before 5 out, ridden and weakened approaching straight, completely tailed off

tracked leaders, pecked 1st, 2nd 5 out, ridden and weakened approaching straight, tailed off

always towards rear, never a factor, slightly hampered 1st, mistake 6th, pushed along before 3 out, no extra

tracked leaders, 3rd halfway, pushed along and lost place before 3 out, weakened

towards rear, 7th halfway, went 5th after 3 out, pushed along to go 3rd entering straight, ridden after 2 out, 4th when mistake last, no extra and lost a place run-in

towards rear, progress into 5th halfway, 6th 3 out, pushed along entering straight, soon no extra and weakened from 2 out

tracked leaders, mistake 4th, 3rd halfway, went 2nd before 3 out, pushed along in 4th when mistake next, soon no extra and weakened from last

mid-division, headway tracking leaders home turn, almost upsides 2 out, every chance last, outpaced flat, kept on well

held up in rear, ridden before 2 out, no impression before last

rear of mid-division, headway behind leaders home turn, ridden almost upsides 2 out, briefly outpaced approaching last, stayed on well to lead flat, won going away

mid-division, pushed along and outpaced from 3 out, plugged on from 2 out

rear of mid division, progress into 7th halfway, pushed along in 5th approaching 2 out, soon ridden and went 4th last, kept on one pace run-in

towards rear, 8th halfway, no impression from 3 out

chased leader, 2nd halfway, pushed along to close after 3 out, ridden after 2 out, no impression when not fluent last, kept on one pace run-in

held up in midfield, pushed along before 3 out, never in contention

midfield, pushed along and dropped to rear before 2 out where tailed off

towards rear, hit 1st, outpaced and pushed along before 4th, pulled up before 3 out

disputed lead early, not fluent 1st, soon headed and dropped to 2nd, left in lead 6th, fell next

tracked leaders, close in 2nd from 4 out, mistake next and soon lost place, ridden and no extra in 8th from 2 out

mid-division, 8th after 6th, lost place and weakened before 2 out

led, increased lead after 2nd, reduced advantage at 7th, increased advantage after 9th, reduced lead 3 out, headed before 2 out where dropped to 3rd, weakened before last

mid-division, pushed along in 8th on inner 2f out, soon ridden, went 5th 1f out, improved into 3rd inside final furlong, 2nd close home, not trouble winner

always prominent, led 3 out, pushed along approaching next, ridden clear at last, stayed on well

tracked leader in 2nd, disputed lead travelling well approaching 2 out, pushed along and led after 2 out, ridden and stayed on well run-in

tracked leaders, 3rd 2 out, led travelling well after 2 out, ridden clear at last, stayed on well run-in, comfortably

tracked leader, 2nd halfway, led under 2f out, ridden to assert over 1f out, kept on well final furlong, reduced advantage late on

towards rear, some headway after 3 out and went 3rd next, 2nd and ridden early run-in, soon no impression on easy winner, kept on one pace

towards rear, pushed along and no impression after 3 out, left 7th at last, kept on one pace, never a factor

mid-division, 9th halfway, 6th and pushed along 2 out, ridden and no impression approaching last where slight mistake, no extra run-in

led and clear, bad mistake and unseated rider 3rd

led, ridden and headed 3 out, soon no impression on leaders after 2 out

held up towards rear, ridden to close 2f out, stayed on into 3rd 1f out, kept on same pace inside final furlong

tracked leaders on inner, ridden and went 2nd after 2 out, led briefly before last, headed at last, 3rd inside final furlong, kept on without threatening winner in 2nd close home

towards rear, 13th halfway, no impression over 1f out, kept on same pace final furlong

mid-division on inner, 7th halfway, 4th entering straight, ridden in 2nd and no impression under 2f out, stayed on to challenge 1f out, led final 150 yards, kept on well, readily

mid-division on outer, pushed along entering straight, ridden and no impression when edged left over 1f out, no extra

tracked leaders, 4th halfway, pushed along after 2 out, ridden and went 2nd early run-in, kept on one pace, no impression on easy winner

chased leader, 2nd halfway, dropped to 3rd after 3 out, soon ridden and no extra from 2 out, kept on one pace from last

rear of mid division, 8th halfway, went 4th after 2 out, pushed along in 3rd approaching last, ridden to go 2nd run-in, no impression on winner

towards rear, 4th halfway, went 3rd before 3 out, pushed along in 4th approaching last, soon no extra and eased run-in

in touch, under pressure in 4th 1f out, lost place and weakened closing stages

mid-division, never a factor, off pace halfway, pushed along and no impression when mistake 3 out, no extra, tailed off

towards rear, progress from 4 out, pushed along in 7th before 2 out, a soon a bit short of room on inner, ridden in 3rd before last, kept on without threatening principals run-in

always towards rear, not fluent 1st, ridden and no impression from 5 out, completely tailed off

mid-division, dropped towards rear from halfway, pushed along in 10th from 3 out, no impression and kept on same pace from next

towards rear of mid-division, progress from 3 out, ridden behind leaders before last, close 4th when short of room inside final 150 yards, kept on into 3rd close home

tracked leader, led after 3rd and 2 lengths clear halfway, pushed along before 2 out, ridden run-in and headed final 100 yards, no impression on winner

disputed lead early, tracked leaders and disputed 10th, headed entering straight, pushed along and led 2 out, kept on well run-in

mid-division, 5th halfway, went 4th and pushed along 2 out, soon ridden and 2nd before last, kept on one pace run-in

always towards rear, never a factor, pushed along before 6th, pushed along again and no impression before 3 out, kept on one pace run-in

tracked leaders, ran freely, 4th halfway, lost place 2 out, soon no extra and eased run-in

made all, pushed along 2 out, ridden approaching last, stayed on well run-in

mid-division, 5th halfway, headway under 2f out, improved to 2nd inside final furlong, kept on, not reach winner

soon prominent, led before 2nd, headed after 3 out, soon ridden and no extra, weakened

held up behind leaders, 4th halfway, ridden and no extra 2 out, rear and pecked slightly last

mid-division, niggled along after 3rd, pushed along halfway, ridden and no impression before 2 out

always towards rear, never a factor, dropped to rear 3rd and pushed along at times after, slow and reminder 7th, ridden and no impression before 3 out, went moderate 5th after 2 out, no extra

towards rear, pushed along before 4 out, ridden in moderate 7th after 2 out, no extra

rear of mid-division, not fluent 2nd, ridden in 9th before 2 out, no impression

rear of mid division, 9th halfway, pushed along after 3 out, soon no extra and weakened before next

rear of mid division, 8th halfway, progress into 6th after 3 out, pushed along in 4th entering straight, ridden to go 3rd after 2 out, soon no extra and kept on one pace from last

tracked leaders, took keen hold, briefly went 2nd 3 out, ridden in 3rd after 2 out, weakened

held up behind, struggling from 4 out, some late headway

held up in touch, struggling and no impression 4 out, hampered by rival after 2 out, tailed off

rear of mid division, progress into 8th early straight, soon no extra and kept on one pace from 3 out

rear of mid division, 7th halfway, no impression from 4 out

mid-division, not fluent, reminders 3rd, ridden and no extra after 3 out

tracked leaders, ridden in 4th over 2f out, weakened

towards rear, pushed along and no impression in rear of mid-division approaching straight, no extra, never a factor

mid-division, ridden 3 out, weakened

always towards rear, no impression when hampered 2 out

tracked leaders, raced keenly, 6th halfway, pushed along after 3 out, ridden before next, no impression from 2 out

tracked leaders, 5th halfway, pushed along entering straight, ridden over 2f out, went 2nd 1f out, led inside last 100 yards, kept on well

mid-division, not fluent 4th, ridden in 9th and no impression after 2 out, 5th at last, kept on one pace

mid-division, slow 1st, dropped towards rear 7th, ridden and no impression before 4 out, weakened after next, tailed off

tracked leader, moderate 2nd halfway, slight mistake 4 out, closer before 3 out, ridden and no extra after 2 out

towards rear, 11th before 6th, effort after 2 out, kept on same pace run-in

rear of mid-division, 8th 3 out, pushed along and no impression before next, ridden in 6th at last, kept on one pace

mid-division on inner, ridden in 7th after 2 out, soon no extra and weakened

mid-division, 7th and pushed along approaching 3 out, no impression after 2 out, no extra

held up behind leaders, bad mistake 3rd, soon rear, pushed along intermittently from 8th, ridden and no extra 5 out, weakened and tailed off

mid-division, slight mistake 3rd, ridden in 8th entering straight, stayed on into 4th 2 out, no impression before last, kept on one pace

always towards rear, not fluent early, ridden and no impression after 4 out, kept on one pace straight

tracked leaders, 6th 3 out, 3rd entering straight, pushed along when bad mistake and sprawled on landing 2 out, dropped to 6th at last, not recover

held up in touch, soon 4th, mistake 4th, 3rd after 3 out, pushed along next, ridden and no impression when not fluent, hampered and left close 2nd at last, disputed final 100 yards, stayed on well, headed close home

towards rear, ridden and no extra after 3 out, weakened, pulled up before 2 out

tracked leaders, took keen hold, mid-division when stumbled after 6th, pushed along towards rear after next, ridden and weakened after 3 out, tailed off

held up towards rear, mistake 4th, pushed along in 7th before 2 out, ridden and staying on in 6th when fell last

rear of mid-division, not fluent 3rd and 4th, towards rear and detached halfway, no danger after 5 out, tailed off

towards rear, raced wide when slipped on bend 3f out, soon ridden and no impression

dwelt, soon mid-division, 8th entering straight, pushed along in 7th under 2f out, ridden in 5th and no impression 1f out, kept on one pace, 4th on line

lost considerable ground at start, always behind, never a factor, pushed along approaching straight, no extra, tailed off

towards rear, ridden under 2f out and some headway on inner in 6th 1f out, kept on one pace inside final furlong

always towards rear, ridden and no impression over 2f out, no extra 1f out

mid-division on inner, headway into 5th 2f out, soon pushed along, ridden and went 2nd 1f out, strongly pressed winner inside final furlong, stayed on well, just failed

mid-division, progress after 4th, 6th before 4 out, no impression in moderate 6th before 2 out, weakened after 2 out

mid-division and not fluent at times, 5th halfway, pushed along from 3 out and went 4th before next, ridden and went 3rd before last, no impression on principals and kept on same pace run-in

towards rear, not fluent 2nd, pushed along and went 7th from 3 out, good headway on outer to challenge in 2nd before last, ridden run-in and no impression on winner

prominent, tracked leaders after 2nd, 6th 3 out, headway to dispute before next, slight mistake and headed 2 out, ridden in 2nd and no impression when mistake last, kept on one pace

tracked leaders in 4th, 3rd 4 out, ridden and no impression before 2 out, kept on one pace

rear of mid-division, pushed along after 3 out, ridden in 5th before next, 4th 2 out, no impression when bad mistake last, no extra

slight mistake 1st, mid-division best, ridden and no impression 3 out, kept on one pace

tracked leaders, 3rd halfway, ridden and dropped to 6th early straight, soon no impression and not fluent 2 out, no extra approaching last

chased leader, 2nd halfway, pushed along to lead entering straight, ridden after 2 out, mistake and headed last, ridden to briefly regain lead last 50 yards, headed close home

in touch, headway over 1f out, no impression on leader in 2nd inside final furlong, kept on same pace

mid-division, dropped to 8th halfway, headway entering straight, improved to 2nd 1 1/2f out, no impression on winner inside final furlong, kept on in clear 2nd

tracked leaders, 4th halfway, pushed along after 2 out, soon no extra and weakened approaching last

led and pecked 1st, pushed along after 3 out and headed entering straight, lost place before 2 out, soon no extra

rear of mid-division, 8th halfway, pushed along and no impression after 3 out, no threat in straight

rear of mid-division, never a factor, ridden and no impression towards stand side 2f out, no extra final furlong

towards rear, 11th and pushed along after 2 out, kept on one pace in straight, never a factor

towards rear, some headway after 2 out and went 6th entering straight, left moderate 5th and slightly hampered last, kept on one pace

towards rear, 6th halfway, went 5th last, kept on one pace run-in

led, increased lead after 1st, not fluent at 3rd, reduced advantage 3 out where mistake and fell

rear, 11th after 7th, weakened after 2 out, never a factor

in touch, dropped to 10th after 4th, headway 2 out, soon 5th, improved to 4th last, soon 3rd, kept on, dropped to 4th close home

towards rear, 11th after 8th, headway before 3 out, no impression and weakened after 2 out

rear of mid-division, 5th after 8th, progress after 9th, lost place 2 out, kept on without threatening in 5th run-in

mid-division, 7th after 8th, effort and progress 3 out, no impression on principals in moderate 4th after 2 out, no extra before last

raced in rear and pushed along from early, some progress from 6 out and ridden in 6th from 3 out, no extra in 5th before last and kept on into 4th run-in

mid-division and mistake 8th, progress into 4th after 4 out, ridden after next and not fluent in 3rd 2 out, went 2nd before last and kept on run-in, no chance with easy winner

soon led and a bit keen, went clear from 5th, reduced advantage before 3 out and soon pushed along, headed 2 out, soon ridden and weakened

mid-division and 8th halfway, some progress into 5th after 4 out, no extra and kept on same pace from 3 out

mid-division, pushed along from 4 out, soon no impression and weakened

rear of mid-division early, never a factor, in rear halfway and detached 3 out, weakened, tailed off

mid-division, dropped to 10th over 3f out, headway under 2f out, improved to 3rd inside final furlong, kept on, slightly hampered close home

tracked leaders, 3rd halfway, ridden to press leaders 2f out, no extra in 4th over 1f out, kept on one pace

mid-division, closer in 5th 2f out, soon ridden, no impression final furlong

towards rear, mistakes, ridden in 7th after 3 out, no impression when fell last

always towards rear, never a factor, pushed along and no impression when blundered 3 out, no extra in straight, tailed off

raced last throughout, in touch, slight mistakes 6th and 7th, ridden 3 out, no impression on leaders

tracked leaders, ridden after 3 out, weakened

slowly into stride, always behind, never a factor

rear, 5th at 6th, 4th after 3 out, dropped to rear before last, stayed on closing stages to 3rd close home

in rear, 8th after 8th, effort after 2 out, 6th last, kept on same pace in 5th closing stages

close up, 2nd at 5th, closed 2 out, strongly challenged leader last, kept on run-in, no extra in 3rd closing stages, dropped to 4th close home

tracked leaders, 4th halfway, ridden in 3rd before 2 out, slight mistake 2 out, under pressure in 4th approaching last, stayed on into 2nd run-in, no impression on winner

led, strongly pressed entering straight, pushed along and headed when not fluent 2 out, ridden and no impression before last, disputed 3rd at last, 3rd after last, kept on one pace

rear, 11th after 6th, effort after 2 out, stayed on in 5th before last, weakened run-in

towards rear, effort after 2 out, kept on after last, never on terms

in touch, lost place and under pressure after 3 out, weakened after 2 out

prominent and disputed early, slight mistake 1st, tracked leader from 2nd, dropped to 5th 4 out, weakened next, tailed off

tracked leaders in 3rd, ridden to press leaders before 2 out, close 2nd and pressed leader after 2 out, no impression last, kept on same pace run-in, just held 2nd

held up towards rear, progress entering straight, ridden into moderate 4th 2 out, no impression before last, kept on one pace

towards rear, no impression from 3 out, never a factor

held up towards rear, headway on inner approaching 3 out, 5th and ridden before 2 out, no impression approaching last, kept on one pace

towards rear, slight mistake 6th, pushed along and no impression approaching 2 out, kept on one pace run-in, never a factor

tracked leader, 2nd halfway, pushed along before 2 out, pecked last and no impression on winner run-in, kept on one pace

mid-division early, 6th halfway, ridden to close 2f out, disputed 1 1/2f out, led under 1f out, kept on well final furlong

mid-division, 5th halfway, slight mistake 3 out, pushed along and no impression in 8th approaching straight, no extra, kept on one pace from 2 out

always towards rear, never a factor

slowly into stride, always towards rear, never a factor

tracked leaders, 9th halfway, no impression from 3 out

mid division, 10th halfway, no impression from 3 out

soon led, joined briefly 7th, pressed after, slight mistake 5 out, joined 3 out, soon ridden, headed after 2 out, rallied to dispute again run-in and slightly bumped, held close home

towards rear, ridden and no impression 3 out, kept on one pace straight

held up towards rear, ridden and some progress into 9th before 2 out, soon no extra

rear of mid-division for most, 12th entering straight, kept on one pace

towards rear, badly hampered after 4th and dropped to rear, slightly detached at 6th, closed up on field after 9th, mistake at 12th, not fluent 4 out, weakened before 2 out

rear, 5th after 7th, slight mistake at 10th, took closer order approaching straight, pecked slightly 2 out, no extra before last

always towards rear, never a factor, ridden and no impression before 3 out, no extra

towards rear, pushed along after 4 out and 8th next, soon no impression, no extra after 2 out

towards rear, 6th halfway, some headway 3 out, 2nd and pushed along approaching next, no impression on winner before last, ridden and kept on one pace

tracked leaders, 5th halfway, ridden and dropped to rear approaching 3 out, weakened, completely tailed off

rear of mid-division, no impression approaching 2 out, kept on one pace, never a factor

made all, pushed along 2f out, soon ridden, pressed inside final furlong, stayed on well close home

slowly into stride, in rear, ridden 2f out, moderate 7th 2f out, no impression

mid-division, not fluent in 4th at 6th, 3rd approaching straight, closed 2 out where badly hampered and brought down

towards rear, 6th after 8th, headway in 3rd before 2 out, no impression on principals before last, dropped to 4th and no extra closing stages

towards rear, rear of mid-division after 2nd, 3rd at 7th, closed approaching straight, travelled well to lead narrowly before 2 out, asserted and clear before last, kept on well, easily

close up, 6th after 7th, took closer order after 8th, no extra in 8th before 2 out

led, joined entering straight, pushed along 3 out, soon ridden, headed at last, kept on well under pressure run-in

mid-division, dropped towards rear before 4 out, weakened 3 out, completely tailed off

in touch, 4th after 5th, effort in 3rd before last where pecked, kept on same pace

mid-division, hampered 9th, 6th halfway, bad mistake and unseated rider 8 out

held up towards rear, pecked 1st, ridden and no impression before straight, kept on one pace

in touch, 8th after 6th, headway before 4 out, closed after 4 out, 3rd approaching straight, 2nd before 2 out, led before last, asserted run-in, kept on well

in touch, dropped to 9th after 4th, effort 2 out, kept on without threatening run-in

towards rear, 10th and pushed along from 3f out, in rear when short of room on stands' side 2f out, soon switched left, ridden and headway into 5th 1f out, went 2nd inside final furlong, stayed on well to lead near line

always towards rear, no impression straight, never a factor

tracked leaders in 3rd, pushed along 2f out, ridden in 2nd 1 1/2f out, dropped to 3rd inside final furlong, kept on

led, wandered and ran wide on bend after 4th, 4 lengths clear halfway, reduced advantage after 4 out, pushed along entering straight, ridden and headed approaching last, no impression on winner run-in

mid-division, 6th halfway, headway travelling well early straight, pushed along and led 1f out, soon ridden and kept on well closing stages

rear of mid-division, ridden and some headway under 2f out, 6th over 1f out, kept on well inside final furlong to go 3rd close home

disputed lead early, tracked leaders and 3rd halfway, 4th and ridden approaching 2 out, no impression before last, 3rd and kept on one pace run-in

rear of mid-division, never a factor, pushed along and no extra after 3 out, weakened, completely tailed off

mid-division, headway entering straight, disputed lead 3 out pushed along and headed 2 out, ridden and rallied to regain lead at last, stayed on well run-in

led narrowly, increased lead after 1st, 5 lengths clear halfway, asserted 4 out where not fluent, reduced advantage after 3 out, headed before last, no impression on winner final furlong

rear of mid-division, ridden 2f out, weakened

tracked leaders, improved into 2nd travelling well entering straight, pushed along and led 1 1/2f out, clear and stayed on strongly final furlong, easily

rear of mid-division, never a factor, towards rear halfway, pushed along and no impression after 3 out, no threat in straight, kept on one pace

tracked leaders, 4th halfway, pushed along and no impression entering straight, soon ridden and no extra after 2 out

always towards rear, never a factor, no extra after 2 out

towards rear, ridden and some headway after 2 out, 9th at last, kept on one pace run-in, never a factor

held up, rear of mid-division, ridden and some progress 2f out, no impression and kept on one pace from over 1f out

prominent briefly, soon settled behind leaders, 7th halfway, ridden and no impression before straight, kept on one pace

tracked leaders, 5th halfway, slight mistake 3 out, soon pushed along, ridden and no impression before 2 out, soon no extra, weakened

held up in rear, close up after 3 out, pushed along and went 3rd at last, ridden and no impression run-in, kept on one pace

rear of mid-division, slight mistake 2nd, no impression approaching 3 out and remote 7th entering straight, no extra, tailed off

rear of mid-division, 10th at 4th, no impression 2 out, soon weakened

always behind, never a factor, tailed off

prominent, jumped right at 5th, 3rd at halfway, weakened 3 out, completely tailed off

tracked leaders, mistake 6th and lost position, 7th 3 out, soon ridden and no impression

tracked leaders, 5th halfway, headway 2f out, 3rd and ridden over 1f out, kept on well inside final furlong, just failed

rear of mid-division, pushed along and some headway early straight, 6th and ridden over 1f out, kept on well inside final furlong to go 2nd close home

held up towards rear, closer 3 out, 5th and pushed along next, no impression approaching last, no extra run-in

towards rear, 10th 4 out, pushed along after next, left 5th and slightly hampered 2 out, no extra

tracked leaders, slight mistake 1st, 3rd halfway, not fluent 4 out, pushed along when mistake 2 out, soon ridden and no impression in 4th, not fluent last, no extra

held up towards rear early, 5th halfway, ridden in 4th after 4 out, no extra before next, weakened and completely tailed off

towards rear, 7th halfway, 5th after 3 out, pushed along approaching straight and moderate 3rd 2 out, no impression approaching last, kept on one pace run-in

led, 3 lengths clear halfway, pressed 2 out, ridden and headed approaching last where mistake, no extra run-in

always towards rear, 5th halfway, pushed along and detached after 5 out, soon weakened, completely tailed off

mid-division, headway into 4th 3 out, ridden and went 2nd before next, no impression on winner before last, kept on same pace run-in

tracked leaders, 3rd halfway, pushed along 2f out, ridden over 1f out and disputed lead 150 yards out, headed closing stages

disputed early, tracked leaders after 1 1/2f and ran freely, 5th halfway, ridden 2f out, soon no impression, no extra over 1f out

always behind, never a factor

mid-division, not fluent 2nd and 3rd, pushed along in 7th 2 out, soon ridden, kept on one pace straight

rear of mid-division, 7th halfway, 6th after 2 out, no impression entering straight, lost place and weakened before last

always towards rear, never a factor, no impression after 3 out and no threat in straight, no extra

chased clear leader, moderate 2nd halfway, closer 3 out, 4th and pushed along entering straight, 5th and ridden approaching last, no extra run-in

chased leaders, mistake 1st and mistake 4th, 6th halfway, slight mistake 4 out and no extra next, weakened, completely tailed off

tracked leaders, 4th halfway, ridden into 3rd entering straight, no impression on leaders before 2 out, kept on one pace

led, pecked 1st, headed 5 out, switched left before last, soon challenged, ridden in 2nd after 2 out, no impression on winner run-in, kept on same pace

towards rear, some headway early straight and 7th 3 out, ridden and no impression approaching last, kept on one pace

towards rear, some headway 4 out and 5th next, 4th and ridden before 2 out, kept on well run-in to go 2nd closing stages

mid-division, 7th after 4 out, 6th and pushed along after 3 out, soon no impression, no extra from 2 out